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359: Well, i've never seen the Environment Agency do anything this outspoken before!
goes to show what a complete lack of planning Waitrose had achieved. 358: At least those little water voles, otters and crayfish are keeping them on their
toes! I'm hoping to get some video of the water voles next to
Somerfield, if I do I will let you have a copy. Julie 356: Can KWTG be a cause for respect in the way it keeps its profile and present not
only real issues (as opposed to disapproval of local government methods) but a
real, practical and workable alternative that will appeal to Councils and public
alike? I AM in favour of the campaign but to be acceptable it needs a very real
acceptable face and policy. 355: Is it expecting too much for the Planning Committee members to remember just a
few hours between seeing the site and an evening meeting? 354: I object to anything being built on Wimborne Town's cricket green. 353: I understand that Waitrose is making approaches to the current Wimborne
supermarket. If they buy this, then where does that leave the new
development? 352: I like the comment in the Stour valley Mag that Waitrose might take ober the
Somerfield stores. Could be Wimborne's solutiuon couldn't it? - take over the
existing supermarket, enlarge it and plant some nice trees etc on the cricket
pitch... 351: Does the comunnity realise how much more Waitrose products cost,than other
super markets 350: One reads that Summerfields is up for sale. So why can't Waitrose make an offer
to buy the existing Wimborne Somerfields and the other shops around the closed
down Boots and develop them into a Wimborne Waitrose? 349: I think one important point to bear in mind is that nobody currently uses the
cricket ground on a regular basis; the cricket club has relocated, and the only
time it is used is on the weekend of the Folk Festival. It is a huge open space
going to waste. We need to do something with it! I am all for making it into a
park, picnic area, or similar, but I believe it will not be used. I think
Waitrose is the best option, and I firmly believe that battles will continue
over this piece of land until finally some large company wins. I think we should
accept Waitrose, because if this opposition continues, they will give up and we
will be left with a company building flats or houses. This land will never, ever
be put to use which will benefit the community unless it becomes a
supermarket. 348: Are you aware that the Somerfield group(all 990 stores) is up for sale and one
of the interested buyers is Waitrose ( see Times business section
22/01/2008). 347: I am a member of Wimborne Cricket club and would like inquire as to why you are
campaining to save the ground. Although this may sound strange I thought it was
common knowledge that the club dont own the land Hanhams do, and it is
inevitable that Hanhams will not continue to fund the ground as it stands
therefore the 'Green' land you so desperately cling to will be gone anyway.
Futhermore if the Waitrose is not built Wimborne Cricket club will have NO
funding to move to a new ground. So even if it was managed to save the green
space in the town the cricket club would be destroyed. I make this point because
I feel it is greatly overlooked in the whole scheem of things and I would very
much welcome a reply to this comment. 346: Would love to see waitrose in town. they supply and support brittish and local
farming,far more than our pressent so called super market. price? have you
purchased at somerfields! 345: Perhaps Wimborne could support a quality foodstore but, it may be an idea to
look at the alternatives. Yes, the infrastructure would have to be heavily
upgraded, at Waitrose expense? I believe alternative thinking may be required,
instead of griping about this contencious possibility, why don't the moaners get
off their high horses and think about a Wimborne consortium to purchase the
land, preserve it and improve it for public use? Words without action are
useless, Stop moaning and start doing! I've seen this situation so many times
like at Sturminster Marshall and the great Gladwish land purchase, the villagers
could have bought that land for a song as a consortium but, no, they just moaned
and groaned whilst the land was stolen from them as they sat on their backsides
in fruitless meeting after meeting. DO SOMETHING or STOP MOANING! 344: have looked through the Local Development Plan that is so often cited by the
KWTG chairman and feel that he is not telling the whole story.... True, the
cricket pitch is designated as 'open space for recreation' but the planning
policy dictates that development may take place in such a place provided 'there
would be no overall net loss of recreational benefit by its 343: Has anyone asked what guarantees there are that Waitrose will maintain the
landscaping as shown in their proposal? I am concerned that, if the development
goes ahead and at some time in the future Waitrose has to cut costs, then they
may cut back on the upkeep of the landscaped area. Worse still, Waitrose could
apply for permission to extend the car park over the landscaped area in order to
bring in extra revenue. P.S. I'm not sure where I
sit at the moment. I'm glad there's further investigation into the traffic. I
thought the Waitrose proposal was strangely worded on this. Section 8.7 of the
non-technical is saying that the junctions are already operating at or near
capacity so any extra vehicles would have little impact. In my words I would say
the traffic is already almost at a standstill at peak times and the situation
won't be improved by the new development! 342: One point that never comes up ,is the fact that Waitrose is one of more
expensive super markets there is for food products,I rest my case. 341: I'd like to live in a town with green spaces. I am also very worried about
the amount of extra traffic this unneeded development will cause. 340: I've just submitted my objection to this proposal via your site. I work for
Friends of the Earth supporting local campaigns all over the country like this
one (and come from Wimborne). The evidence is mounting to demonstrate the
catastrophic effects that ill thought out applications like this one can have on
small towns (I wonder if some of the people making supportive comments have
looked at the evidence on the websites listed on the homepage - Tescopoly, The
New Economics Foundation and indeed Friends of the Earth to name a few good
ones). 339: It's a shame to destroy the English village feel that is exemplified by
the cricket pitch that one sees as one comes in to Wimborne. 338: I basically support the Waitrose application; this town needs a quality food store. 337: I find the planning process grossly
unfair. Don 335: We do not want a Waitrose supermarket, keep Wimborne as it is, especially for the residents of Streets Meadow. I and many residents I know will boycott the Waitrose store if it is built. Jo 334: Both myself and my wife strongly believe that the land in the centre of Wimborne, known as Wimborne Cricket Ground, should NOT AT ANY TIME be passed for any kind of development whatsoever Nick 333: This whole business about the cricket ground is very distrurbing and rather depressing. I am totally against this development, I want my green space, but the realist in me knows that it is unlikely to survive. I think that the basic fact is that humans have no choice other than to gradually destroy the environment they live in, simply in order to survive. At this stage in history we're just getting to the point where the earth's population has reached a level where its impact is significant enough for us to really start noticing. The earth is a large place, but it's filling up quickly and its resources are being used up at an increasing rate, much faster than they can be replenished by sunlight. As long as societies are ruled by economics, which is a basic result of the division of labour that enables us to live such incredibly lavish lifestyles (in the western world), man will always need to be doing something that generates cash flow in order to be able to feed and shelter himself. And all of the activities that he can do will have some impact on the environment. The majority of activities require fuel of some kind, which involves burning fossil fuels and releasing the energy stored in them over millions of years. This fuel is running out. The Waitrose development is one example of people having to do stuff to survive, at the expense of our surroundings. People need to buy and sell, or die. Transport is another result of man doing stuff. We manufacture, buy and drive our cars in increasing numbers, burning more fuel reserves but enabling ourselves to do even more stuff. The number of cars in the country is allowed to increase without limit, but we cannot provide enough roads and parking space for an infinite number of vehicles. Housing is a similar issue, we don't have an infinite amount of land. But who could and would ever answer the (reasonable) question 'what is the maximum number of people/cars our land will support'. In the end capitalism will eat itself, as the phrase goes. The earth's resources will expire, our land will become flooded and unihabitable, our food supplies will dwindle and the human race will just have to fall back both in number and in lifestyle. We have reached our peak in the developed world, a return to medieval times is around the corner. This will sound ridiculous to most people, but that is because we have grown up in times when we have come to expect 'progress' to continue for ever and ever, so that one day we will all be living like the characters in Star Trek. This is fantasy. Infinite progress requires infinite resources. We don't have that. Anyway, I hope the cricket ground does not get built on. Peter 332: During the baby boom years, following the 2nd World War, there was insufficient housing in Wimborne for young families. Most of these families consisted of men and woman who had served in the forces during the war. There was a desperate need for social housing. The town planners decided that a new housing estate would be sited at the area now known as Leigh Park, a mile to the east of the town centre. No doubt all issues were considered by the council. The decision was taken to proceed. This resulted in the estate being erected adjacent to the council refuse tip and the sewerage works, a great reward for the service given. For residents of Churchill Road, there was the consolation that a green space existed between their back gardens and the tip. In the 1950's, the council agreed to the Flight Refuelling factory being sited on this space. A massive series of buildings were erected which totally blocked out the view of the countryside, and it could no longer be used as a play area by the local children. The estate, and the factory buildings, were sufficiently far away from the 'back yards' of the wealthy and powerful not to cause any problems. The residents of Leigh Park had no say in any of this. It could be argued that times have changed and that today's planners will listen impartially to those who object to the development of the Cricket Club site, and may even find in their favour. I doubt it. Personally, I do not believe things have changed. Land owners still don't give a toss about those affected. The money they get for the land is what really matters to them and big business still has the power to squash 'little people'. As for those who will make the final decision whether or not this green space will be destroyed for all time, unless they are affected directly, do they particularly care. It seems to me that the plans will go ahead unless we can provide good reasons why they should not. Surely it should be the other way around and that our green spaces must be preserved at all costs unless there are overwhelming reasons why they should not. From what I can see, the only ones who would really benefit from the development are the land owners, a handful of cricket players and Waitrose itself, oh, and of course, the dim people who would 'just love to have a Waitrose' to shop in. I cannot understand why the simple fact of residents wishing to preserve a green space within the town holds so little weight in this debate. I am of the view that the council will be persuaded by Waitrose and that the objections by all others will be 'noted' and that will be that. The fact is we don't matter. Faceless bureaucrats will tell us what we need and bit by bit they will destroy the town. Finally, do Waitrose have any interest in the appearance and effects of a post Waitrose Wimborne? Why should they? All they will want to see is the store making a healthy profit while they are here. At some time in the future, when it suits them, they will pull out of Wimborne leaving behind a commercial site. Who will be next ? Toys are Us ? Homebase ? How about a nice Pizza Hut or Kentucky Fried Chicken. Keith 331: This is sheer vandalism take away the pretty drawings and what have you got 1 a green space lost forever 2.hugely increased traffic in an already congested town and may I say not only in the town centre but roads leading in from all directions (eg.colehill where there are 3 schools. middle hill rd. will soon become a rat run.) why are the planners so keen on this development? what has gone on in secret? these large stores should not dominate small towns for the sake of short term profits,their motive is money, nothing more. I for one do not trust these planners who will soon move on to another area to despoil yet another town with more concrete.Look at the dreadful existing crown mead shopping development how can any one trust these people to do any better next time around. Douglas 330: This Application is totally out of character with a small market town such as Wimborne. The Cricket Green is what makes the town unique and if such a development is deemed necessary why don't Waitrose demolish the current monstrosity that is Somerfields and surrounding units and rebuild a Waitrose there such as the one in Dorchester. If Waitrose is allowed to erect a new build the current Somerfields will close and leave an unsightly and empty precinct which is already a blot on the landscape. The building of Waitrose will completely ruin the town, increase noise, litter and traffic. I just wish that the Planning Department showed a bit of guts and said no to this development but no doubt it will go ahead like everything else that we ratepayers don't want!!!!!! Wendy 329: Please do not relocate the cricket ground. Please ask Waitrose to put their SuperMarket on the same place to which they would relocate the cricket ground. Mike 328: Redevelop the drab unused units that you have already allowed to be built. Can you honestly say either Crown Mead or Kings Court enhance the shopping experience of Wimborne. Leave something that makes Wimborne 'unique' Jill 327: I find your website very difficult to read [yellow on green, some white on green, random location for direct information - but I do support your cause. Mike 326: Good afternoon. What you and most of your crew seem to ignore is the fact that, that field WILL BE SOLD. You have no way of stopping it. If Waitrose do not buy it who will? The only way to keep the whole of that area green is for YOU to buy it. You make all this noise yet the vessel is empty. You have put forward no alternative to the Waitrose buy. Thus my criticism is that you are completely misleading people into thinking that things can remain as they are. Kenneth Reply from KWTG chairman to the comment above: Dear Kenneth of Feedback 326
May I respectfully point out that you make the same
mistake as so many people in forgetting that Hanham's Ground - the Cricket
Pitch, is part of the Wimborne Conservation Area and is also designated as an
'open space for recreation' in the Local Development Plan 2002. Of course
it may be sold but, currently, the owner is trying to sell it for a
commercial development value which, given its status, it should not have.
The Town has tried to buy it twice but the owner has not agreed clearly because
of a belief that Wimborne Minster could, one day, be persuaded to accept a
large supermarket on the site. I have discussed this with a Trustee of the
'Deans Court Estate' which administers the Ground.
We cannot predict what will be the outcome if the Waitrose
Application is refused, we judge that there are a number of
possible scenarios. What is exceedingly unlikely is that the site
will be developed with houses or flats for the reasons which I explain in the
piece which you can access from the Home page. If you read the KWTG Aim
which is also available via the Home page you will discover that it is not the
case that we, necessarily, wish to keep things just as they are - although
that would not displease many Wimborne residents, we recognise that change
occurs. If the Waitrose Application is refused, and we do so hope
that it will be because there are compelling reasons why it should be - the
impacts on traffic, local shops, environment, visual amenity and
ambiance, we shall campaign to raise money for it to be bought by
the Town so it can remain an open space for the benefit
of residents and the Town's many visitors.
Philip Atlay
Chairman
KWTG 325: Re your comment, quote, "the Department has so far received 150 letters of which the majority are in support. They come, it seems, from people who Waitrose signed up at its last exhibition and to whom the company has written" - surely all the KTWG supporters must also have been to the exhibition? Wouldn't they also have registered their addresses? Otherwise I don't see how can they reasonably object without having attended to view information at first hand and to see how queries and concerns were dealt with. Peter 324: I have lived in Wimborne for 32 years. In the past people
have applied to use available town centre space for new development, which is
understandable. However, because the town is going to expand in population, we
need to increase rather than decrease the green space available for the central
community. We also need to provide greater amount of car parking space for the
increasing population of the town. Less traffic flow through the town is
required in what is already often a fairly congested town centre. 323: I was delighted to receive your flyer. It prompted me to write to the Planning Department to say just how much I am IN FAVOUR of this development which will give the town a very much needed boost commercially,in improving the green outlook,and in terms of increasing employment (something you fail to ever mention!). I have lived here for 32 years and that 'bit of green' you speak of is a joke. Unless you are an avid cricket supporter and now there will be an improved ground for them. What Waitrose propose is 1000% aesthetically better than what is inaccessible now. I just hope the majority of us true locals support this excellent company and leave you lot with your heads firmly in the sand! 322: I have suggestion. Organise an event whereby the names of the people who are attending are put into a database. This is merged into the template letter. The event should mean a prestigious dinner and lots of fun, some speeches etc. Before the people leave they are asked to sign the letter, so like Waitrose you get the signatures but more.Or perhaps a coffee morning. You should break even and have money in the pot. Some people may be voting for Waitrose because they feel lonely not feeling that they having much enjoyment in their life. KWTG can do just that! 321: I am so sick of the whole thing. We cannot use the sacred pitch anyway, i have a young son who likes to kick a ball around but can we place our unworthey feet on the pitch? NO WAY!!! But we can look thougth the railings and wonder why. Hope all you KWG LOSERS grow up.I WANT WAITROSE, DO ALL YOU PEOPLE REALLY THINK IT WILL SPOIL WIMBORNE OR MAYBE YOU THINK IT WILL LOWER YOUR HOUSE PRICES?? OR MAYBE YOU JUST WANT WIMBORNE TO DIE ON ITS KNEES?? SOMERFIELDS IS THE WORST SHOP EVER, EVEN THE PEOPLE WHO WORK THERE HATE IT. GO WAITROSE!!!!!!!. This letter is in fact two successive letters from the same person. Web site manager 319 : The character and beauty of Wimborne is in danger of being irretrievably destroyed if the locale authority do not take measures to maintain the character and improve where necessary Wimborne town. By destroying this green sanctuary in the hart of Wimborne is not the way forward. If an additional supermarket is deemed to be required what about the Allanview car park. Any supermarket would be more than pleased to provide a multi story car park to replace the existing and provide the additional car parking spaces that would be required. The local plan is suppose to protects this site, that is what Local Plans are for! Policy RCDEV1 chapter 6.212 dose this unless a replacement is found, but shouldn't this be like for like (how do you replace open space in the centre of town, not with a piece of flood plane out of town). Paragraph 12.52 specifically protects this area from development for other purposes . Take note if this site is developed there is no defence to stop the other open spaces itemised under paragraph 12.52 of the Local Plan being developed "Colehill Cricket Ground and the allotments" etc. 318: If KWTG is to oppose to having any development on the cricket green, then I believe we should change the current situation of the green, rather than having it as a cricket only area (apart from on folk festival) it should be made into a public access area so it is actually worth keeping, wimborne already has another cricket area to practice/play on at Pamphill, there is no reason this couldn't be used as the regular wimborne cricket ground, and the current green couldn't be turned into a park or a local sports club with a track, jumping pits and other equipment rather than just cricket which isn't used enough. I expect more people would want to save the green if was made more useful for them or their children and other children in the future. Therefore if wimborne is not going to use the green effectively for it's people, then a waitrose would probably make much better use of the space. 317: At present there is no public access to this ground to view the river. I think the waitrose plan looks like an improvement.We need a decent shop in this town. It will probably increase the trade for the other shops.It will also encourage more diverse retailers to fill the empty precinct that makes us look like a ghost town 316: Wimborne has other green space - the park/recreation ground. The current cricket field is NOT public. The Waitrose proposal will use about 1/3 of the existing field - the remaining 2/3 will be PUBLIC green space. Pollution will be reduced, not increased - people won't need to drive to Ferndown or Poole to find a good supermarket if we have one of our own. (The current Somefield is hopeless). I support the development. (I didn't originally, but attending the meetings showed how well they took people's concerns into account when they modified their proposals). Increased trade in the town should allow the appallingly run-down state of Crown Mead to be improved, too. 315: c'mon guys. you know how it works. there's a legal process that has to be run thorugh, backhanders either do or don't get taken, the land owner (for no earthly good reson) suddenly decides to end an on-going lease that's never been in question before, Waitrose gradually wins over the public and the rest of us either lie down and die or keep shouting until it's actually there, built, in the middle of the ever expanding commercially viable success that every small town with any character left will slowly become. Could someone ask Waitrose if they'd like to buy my soul, I don't think I need it anymore 314: If Waitrose was already on the site occupied by Somerfield and it was Somerfield applying for permission to develop the cricket pitch, I can't see that there would be any public support at all. The Local Plan says that there is already enough supermarket provision for a town of the size of Wimborne. I would like to think that Planning Committee Members would take no account of which retailer is to be the first of many future occupiers of the site but test the application against Local Plan Policies alone. It might suit some of us now if the cricket ground becomes a Waitrose, but in ten, twenty years time when it's been bought up by SupaSava then we should never forgive ourselves for destroying forever such a precious jewel in the very heart of our town. 313: Waitrose appeals to a very upscale customer. Its high prices mean that it's a poor option as the 'main' supermarket serving the community. OK, so Wimborne is obviously over-represented with the gourmet green-wellies, that is why Waitrose wants to pitch-up there. But there's a double whammy for many in the community on average incomes and below. Not only will the store be too expensive, but the stores they've been accustomed to using will buckle under the competitive pressure from this newcomer. As a rule of thumb, the UK is now very well served by supermarkets. There are very few areas in the UK where there isn't a supermarket within a 10-minute drive time. They should be kept to the ring roads, not be given permission to plunder valuable green space. 312: I don't believe this. We have the govenment saying they want to battle pollution and over-development and preserve rural Britain yadi yadi yada and then they go and stick yet ANOTHER supermarket on a beautiful patch of grass. I don't understand this. For starters, part of the charm of Wimbourne has always been the smaller shops, which will undoubtedly suffer as a result of this, causing havoc with the local economy. It will increase traffic in the town (which at times is a hellish experience anyway) and in the process of making this 'development' they are also taking away an area that can be used for much needed recreation for all local people. If the council has any sense at all, they will decline the application. 311: Has no-one any back bone or energy to put a stop to this dreadful plan. This is a well loved and cared for cricket ground, which has hosted some class games. The beauty of having a little green lung, where weary shoppers or cricket enthusiasts could cheer on their favourite cricket side. Why not put a Supermarket at Redcotts instead? or better still the conurbation is well served with super markets,bring back some old fashioned grocers, and of course the butchers and fishmongers that were there years ago.! Leave the green space alone, local commerce has slaughtered Wimborne town centre, it has nothing to offer anymore. A tad too twee !!!!!! 310 :Have just handed in letters to EDDC Planning. A couple of extra thoughts cropped up: Following a day and a half of rain I see that
the lower end of Somerfield car park is partly under water and
impassable, while the adjoining pavement is also submerged,
with water gushing out of a manhole by the river, presumably due to raised
river water levels. Luckily no underground carpark there...I put a
PS note to that effect in letter I just posted.
Another thought - how much support for Waitrose
comes from out-of-town addresses, and NOT Wimborne residents. I'd be
interested to know what proportion of residents is actually represented, if
that's possible.
That's all for now, I cant make the fri 30th 2.30
but husband Tom has said he'll be there.
Good luck,309: EDDC
Planning Dept. would do well to ponder this little story: a few
weeks ago, my teenage cousin from Barcelona
came to stay with us. Naturally, we showed him the sights of Wimborne. As we
walked towards the river Allen through Crown Mead, he was absolutely enchanted
by the sight of the gently flowing river, the trees and, of course, the cricket
field. He
literally gasped with delight! 308: Am I correct in saying this would make five roundabouts in a row between Crown Mead and Poole Road. A distance at a guess of less than half a mile. Is this a world record? Wimborne residents will have to replace their left hand tyres twice as often as the right. On a serious note, I wonder if there are any guidelines about how many roundabouts can be squeezed into a short road. Elderly and inexperienced drivers from the Wimborne area already take long detours to avoid using the canford bottom roundabout. This may trap them on Leigh Road forever. Any one else have an opinion on this? Mat 307: We object strongly to the planning application. However, the main issue would appear to be the ownership of the land. For Hanham's ground to become a truly public open space, it's new owner would have to be a well intentioned individual or preferably the council ! Steve 306: Please
keep up the excellent work that you are doing. I know how time consuming this
whole process is for you and your team but the goal will be worth all the
effort. We wouldn't feel satisfied with ourselves if we just let Waitrose have
their way and destroy such a important area. The letters received by the council either for or against the proposal are not taken into account simply as a percentage for and against, but more for their actual content. Far more attention will be paid to letters expressing individual concerns than a sample letter with names/addresses added - I don't know how many people will have already used your sample letter but it may be worth telling them that using their own words will carry far more weight. The council have yet to hear back from most of the concerned bodies - ie traffic/environment/chamber of trade etc, but I am sure the potential traffic congestion at the entry to the proposed car park could well be a significant point against the granting of the application. As we have heard before, there is no guarantee Waitrose would be the actual operator if planning was granted -it is given to the site - however he did clarify that the granting of permission for a supermarket bears no relation to any other planning, and housing would be extremely unlikely to ever gain approval. A lot of the people 'for' waitrose at the earlier exhibitiions were convinced that there would be something built there and that waitrose was the lesser of two evils. This is simply not true. I do wonder whether we shouldn't come up with some proposal for making the existing green area more accessible and used by the local residents - what are the chances of summer holiday activities for children/maybe some seasonal markets - christmas/easter/ in addition to the folk festival useage? If we simply fight this on the basis of wanting to keep the area green, it comes across as all negative - Anyway, just a thought.
303: My
family and i have lived in wimborne for some ten years now.We were attracted by
its Town Centre, full of interesting shops,river,green areas,relatively light
traffic, and complete lack of large retail outlets.i feel the current
supermarket and supermarket and precinct area could be easily up-graded to
provide a wonderful shopping facility for Wimborne.For those that need a larger
store, there are plenty of options only a short car or bus-ride away. David 301: Following recent press reports of the National Trust's interest in preserving green spaces from development, perhaps it would be sensible to inform them of the situation and that they might care to get involved. 300: I am just writing after reading the article in the Echo about this press briefing, which I felt raised no objection at all to Waitrose's proposals. There is something very underhand going on with this and I, for one, am sick of all the secrecy surrounding this issue. If we had a public meeting, at least everyone would be able to put their points of view across - which is how democracy is supposed to work! I shall be writing to Robert Walter to lend my support for his call for a public meeting which I hope I will have the pleasure of meeting some of you at, if they agree to it! With very best wishes, 299: C!MON EVERYBODY,DONT LET THEM DO TO WIMBORNE WHAT THEY DID TO THE TOP OF POOLE TOWN IN THE 60!S.THAT MONSTROSITY OF AN ARNEDALE CENTRE,THAT AWEFUL BARCLAYS BUILDING,AND THE LOSS OF THE LADIES WALKING FIELD,SUPPOSEDLY LEFT TO THE PEOPLE OF POOLE FOR PERPETUIT 298: Why do we need another supermarket 50 metres from an existing supermarket and what will the view be like for the old peoples home when waitrose is built. surely this is very bad planning it would be much better out of town we do need another supermarket but not there 297: Keep up the good work! You can count on me to join in with any actions forthcoming. With nearly a whole row of vancant shops opposite Somerfield it really does beg the question why they wish to destory the cricket pitch for ever. 296: Good man, with you all the way. 295: Well, the Cricket pitch will surely go and I see little wrong with that. Yes, its green space but nobody can use it except a few people for what is after all just a game. To imagine that this land will be allowed to remain as public access green space is daydreaming at best. The hard fact is that if Waitrose do not develop this site sympathetically then it will go for housing, and bottom end housing at that I expect. 294: To build a Supermarket on the beautiful green land that is Wimbornes' cricket pitch is appalling and plans for this should not be accepted 293: Thanks for organising the campaign. I appreciate your efforts and wholeheartedly support your view. 292: I am appalled at the secrecy with which Waitrose held its 'Press Briefing' on October 2. The company really is not doing itself any favours and should perhaps consider appointing a new adviser - preferably one that values democracy and open discussion. 291: Dear Philip You’ve got to have a public enquiry. I live in North London (my mum is still in Wimborne) and we have just had one for a development of 4 blocks 4 storeys high with 2 flats on each floor. We were able to contribute enormously at the Enquiry ( and needed to; Enfield council, defending their rejection of the scheme were pathetic). I would be delighted to pass on my experience if it comes to that. I am so shocked at this development and that the Hanham family are allowing it. The cricket ground (on which I played quite a bit back in the 70’s) is a major open space and a blessing to the whole feel of the town. When it’s gone it’s gone. Why don’t they just knock down the whole grubby development of shops that includes Somerfields (I see Boots got out) and build a decent supermarket on that? The whole effect on the traffic in Wimborne will be huge too. Anyway you know all this – KEEP UP THE GOOD FIGHT and ignore all apathy. People power can and does win. My very best wishes to you and your colleagues. 290: Another supermarket in the town may be good for the residents but the cricket ground really does provide wimborne with much of its unique character that most towns lack. Wimborne has managed to keep much of its old character over a number of years. 289: Leave the cricket field alone and build where the cricket field is going. This will not add to congestion 288: As with most other councils, green spaces are being eroded for cash. A more purposeful use of such land, if it has to be, would be something for the people. A leisure centre such as the one at Littledown would be better seeing as it is the most used centre in the UK. What about a botanical gardens as a tourist attraction? Might taake years to develop, but it would keep the place green and attract tourism. Far too far sighted for councils though...they can't see further than their noses. 287: I agree with everything you mention, BUT... if a supermarket such as Waitrose is not built somewhere like the Cricket Ground, it will most likely be built 'out of town'. This will mean less people come into the town centre and so the small, local shops will still disappear, owing to a lack of business. Please don't misunderstand... I'm not all for this development, but I do thing everyone should view the options realistically. 286: Thanks for this Email re views - or not - of prosp ective candidates in Local Election. As I can not bring myself to vote for anyone in UKIP and no-one else will state their personal view I feel that I will not be able to vote at all as I feel so strongly about keeping our beautiful Cricket Ground free from development. Thanks again for putting me in the picture. 285: As I understand it the cricket pitch is being sold in order to raise money for the Hanham's estate. While in return the cricketers are being offered a new pitch near the old grammar school. Perhaps somebody could answer me this; why not sell the proposed new site for the cricket pitch to Waitrose instead? 284: The cricket field is privately owned and not public open space even though many correspondents seem to think the cricket field is public property. The owners would have every right to erect a 6ft high fence round the field and shut it off from public view. They also have the right to develop the cricket field, subject to planning approval, if that is their wish. The trustees of the Trust, who own the field, also have a duty of care to the beneficiaries of the Trust and to maximise the assets for future generations. What then are they to do with their cricket field which you must remember is a PRIVATE field? Apply for houses/ flats and garages. This would fit in with Government thinking on Town Centre sites. Maybe a mixture of Houses and commercial premises? Both would probably be accepted on appeal as they fit in with Government guidelines. If the Waitrose scheme i s approved then the Trustees will have managed to increase the value of the Trust and at the same time give Wimborne a LARGE public open space in the centre of the Town, something the town does NOT have now. Surely this is a better deal than flats/ houses all over the site and no public access. You can of course argue that it should remain as it is for ever but this is not really realistic in the present circumstances. I personally take my hat off to the Trustees who have achieved a very difficult balancing act and have increased the value of their asset and at the same time given Wimborne a huge public open space in the centre of the Town. If approved the cricket club moves to an idyllic new setting with a new pavillion(something they cannot now afford), the Town has a supermarket which again it badly needs( see the chamber of commerce opinion) and Wimborne has an open space of over an acre which I suggest is the subject of a design competition. The benefits to all concerned far outweigh the emotive arguements and i am sure these are apparent to all who stop and think. 283: The area surrounding the cricket pitch has already been ruined through a lack of cohesive planning and design, as well as poor piecemeal building - witness the dreadful old people's flats, the ambulance station, the police station, Wessex House (Savills) and the Teachers Building Society. These examples of shoddy (and cheap) design don't belong so near the centre of a town that is supposed to be one of the finest places to live in the country! The current supermarket - be it Safeway, Morrisons or Somerfield (whatever it is at the moment)- is perceived to be located in a 'backwater', and does not offer the quality of product inhabitants of this area expect. This is what needs to be addressed! The cricket club would be delighted to go to a new home and they get a much finer pitch in the process! They can't afford to stay where they are! Of course, the ideal solution would be: demolish the existing supermarket, and build the Waitrose on that site with increased (underground) parking - possibly etending under the present cricket pitch. But then we know this is unaffordable; the owners of the land don't get the income they need; and the cricket club is left with poor facilities (even if they could afford the new rent.) The sad thing is, if the Waitrose build does not go ahead, the cricket club could well fold, and then who would keep up the resultant open space and what would it become? A couple of football pitches? A dog-walkers paradise? 282: There is a lot of heat, mis-directed emotion and selective quoting on both sides of this Waitrose argument. It's a complex discussion. However, the 'preserve our green' argument is particularly emotional. If the Wimborne Cricket Club was a proper village green I would oppose any development most strongly. But the Cricket Club is not a green. I have felt for many years that it is a sad wasted facility used by very few local people. The green is not available to the public for everyday use, so it is not a green in any real sense. On 3 sides it is surrounded by unattractive walls and railings. It can barely be seen, let alone accessed. The one remaining side by the river is hardly 'village green like' in it's outlook and amenities - we can just see a green field with a couple of dilapidated sheds. It could be delightful, with river frontage and green space for residents to relax and play. But in truth, the green is just a mown field used by a very few people on a few days every year. The point at issue is not the green space, but whether a new supermarket would benefit Wimborne or not. That's another argument. If the choice is between leaving things as they are or gaining something of greater use to the residents, I will support change. If Wimborne could have a 'proper' village green that would be well worth fighting for, but fighting just to maintain the unsatisfactory status quo is not worthwhile. 281: The artist's impression above (I suspect the writer means the impression on the main page..KWTG web site manager) is completely inaccurate and the person who did this should be ashamed to call themselves an artist,The scale is stupid. Waitrose would take up much more room. Wimborne is nice because it doesn't look like Winton. It should stay that way. 280: I work in Lymington where Waitrose has just taken over the old Morrisons building. The situation is very similar as it is on the edge of the Town. If I go to Waitrose I do not stray in to the Town, and if I go to the Town I do not also go to Waitrose. People will drive in and drive out of the Town again, they will not go into the Town. All that will happen is that we will get even more conjestion than we already have. I believe people will shop in Waitrose but the only result will be more cars and more lorries. Is it worth losing the cricket pitch for this. Already the Town is attracting the faceless chain businesses we don't want any more or their won't be a market town to visit, it will just be one more boring suburb. 279: I watched an interesting program on TV regarding Supermarkets going into small towns. They contacted 'Friends of the Earth' I believe, who have a special section that 'help' when Supermarkets try to come in. What was particularly interesting was the way that supermarkets use 'sweeteners'. It would seem that these sweeteners are not being used appropriately. I wondered on the 'legality' of the cricket ground being moved and rebuilt etc by Waitrose, as this (without knowing any of the detail)may not be an appropriate sweetener. What sweeteners should be used for, is what the supermarket would really do that would be an immediate impact/benefit to Wimborne and it's residence i.e. Improvements in the infrastructure that would cope with the potentially extra 1000 cars a day. The lady's name from 'Friends of the Earth' was Vanessa Bell (on the programme). 278: Whilst not opposed to a supermarket somewhere in Wimborne, I don't feel the cricket pitch is the place. Not many towns these days can boast of an area like this in the town. Many years ago I played hockey there when the hockey club and cricket club shared the ground. If Waitrose are so keen to come to Wimborne why don't they buy out Somerfield and the precint area and develop that. The picture is all very nice, but how can the cricket area be big enough for a supermarket, carpark and a green area - can't see it myself. Also as this is a runoff for the River Avon, whats going to happen when the Avon bursts it banks - will the overflow now go into town, flooding the shops? 277: I do not wish to see a Waitrose store on our cricket field 276: I have lived in Dorset for over 20 years and have always enjoyed my visits to Wimborne. A great big NO to development of the cricket square. Commercialism is going too far 275: The new image on the kwtg website of the proposed supermarket shows a very rosy view of the carpark. On their plan Waitrose showed the upper car park to be at the same level as the shop floor i.e. approx 8ft higher than your image shows. Also the original railings and wall along Rowlands Hill are very unlikely to be left as shown on your image. KWTG is doing a good job of presenting facts intelligently and fairly to oppose the Waitrose building however this new website image presents too favourable a case and possibly helps the Waitrose cause. 274: No Waitrose and asociated urbanisation of town centre area with consequent traffic volume. Only development that is acceptable is for a "park" area for the whole site with cricket pitch to move (eventually when conditions allow). Waitrose's park area inadequate, the area will already have been spoiled if the superstore comes. Vote NO! 273: The Community Magazine (2nd February) reported that opinion in Wimborne regarding the Supermarket - Cricket Ground debate was divided 53% against : 44% in favour and 3% did not know. The public around Wimborne should be reminded that this survey by Wimborne Town Council was restricted to a random selection of precept taxpayers solely from the Parish of Wimborne. It excluded all Wimborne businesses, in and out of the Parish, who are also, of course, ratepayers. A recent Wimborne Chamber of Trade poll showed that of 81 replies, 77 were in favour of Waitrose and 4 against - a majority of 95%. Nor did the Town Council survey take into consideration the opinions of those other local residents outside the confines of the parish itself who, if there were a quality grocer in this market town, could and probably would patronise such a store. These prospective local customers number in excess of 30,000 within a 10 minute drive of the centre of town. The Survey showed that only 157- less than 0.5% of those who consider themselves from Wimborne - gave the 'thumbs down' to a new supermarket. Without the voice of the commercial community and the immediate catchment area, can the Town Council survey be considered in any way representative? 272: If Hanham Estates plan to sell the cricket field it is a sad fact of life that it will go for development in one way or another. It would be wonderful for someone to purchase it for the town and maintain it as a green space with perhaps a playpark for children. That would take a miracle at least. Housing would be simply dreadful. Waitrose seems to be the best option. It is a relatively ethical supermarket that sells quality produce (and local produce) with lots of choice. Somerfield is little more than a Spar or convenience store. It is not adequate for the people of Wimborne and so most people will travel to Ferndown or Poole. Dorchester (as many lovely old market type towns across England) has an in town Waitrose and is a really vibrant, buzzing town with individual shops and high street shops that offer plenty of choice and variety whilst still retaining its charm. Wimborne is slowly dying with an excess of opticians, estate agents, hairdressers and shoe shops. You are pretty stuck if not after any of the above! Due to the rubbish foresight of our planners (who have no say at the end of the day if plans go to appeal) who built Streets Meadow on its orginal site when it was known Waitrose were interested in Wimborne we are all in this dilemma. Waitrose could have gone where the rest home is and the rest home could have been sited on the cricket field with plenty of green space for families to enjoy. Most people I know are crossing their fingers and hoping Waitrose goes ahead. It is the best choice for the town and would allow local people to shop for their family food in their own town. We would of course also use the banks, post office, shoe shops etc at the same time! We would not have to travel out of town 271: A new supermarket on the proposed site will be disastrous for Wimborne. The inevitable increase of traffic and loss of small traders around the square 270: My household was one of the 500 chosen
at random to vote on whether a supermarket should be allowed to be built
on the Hanham's Cricket Ground. As I stated in my reply the choices of
vote were either are you in favour of a supermarket,are you against, or
don't know. This is not sufficient. What I and others would like to know
is this. The Hanham Estate will sell off the cricket pitch. The Cricket
Club want this too. It will not necessarily then stay as green open space.
Would the Council approve it for planning for the housing so desperately
needed in the area? If so I cannot imagine any developer would be willing
to keep as much green open public space as Waitrose has offered. This
concerns me very much. I have lived in Wimborne since 1974 and Somerfield
is not doing anywhere near the trade that Safeway did. So in my opinion
most Wimborne folk are going elsewhere to shop anyway, creating a reverse
traffic flow. 269: I used to play cricket for Wimborne. My mother still lives in the town and I am shocked that this scheme can even be dreamt of. Local people must fight this by writing to object - the only way to stop these crazy proposals is through group action. Don't lie down and let it happen!!! 268: The fact that this town needs a second supermarket is right & true, it does!. The problem is twofold, first, taking away one of the great & quaint area's of this town is not the way to draw people & businesses back in. This town is one of the most beautiful towns in this area, taking away this cricket field would in my opinion take away a part of the character of this wonderful town. Second, bringing in Waitrose is not the way to do this. Waitrose is one of the most expensive Supermarkets in the field. We already have a supermarket that is expensive, why bring in another expensive one. They say they want to do this to bring people back into the town, you do not do that by making the town more expensive. You do that by bringing in a draw, something that people will save money from going to, not feel that they have been ripped off by going there. I know some have said that they do not want lets say Asda here as that would take more people away from the other businesses, but surly if we had something like that people would be drawn here & that being the case, would then look around the town. Thus the other businesses would then gain more custom from that, not less. I am sorry if not a lot of people agree with what I have said, but that's my thoughts on this matter. 267:Wake up Wimborne and don't sleepwalk into allowing the proposed building of Waitrose to go ahead. Don't take for granted the beauty of Wimborne and don't be panicked into thinking that if we don't have a Waitrose then Wimborne will die. Building a Waitrose in order to revitalise Wimborne may seem a solution, but it will create far more problems than it solves. For a start it will bring an extra 2,000 cars a day streaming (or rather crawling) in and around Wimborne. Why on earth do you think the town planners built the Wimborne by-pass in the 1970's ? Are we really advocating bringing back the traffice which blighted Wimborne in the past ? Our relatively traffic-free streets are the envy of many traffic-clogged towns. Please don't go for the quick-fix building of a supermarket. Don't take this seemingly easy option to boost trade to the town. We attract many tourists in the summer - eager to experience and share the beauty of the Minster with its small local shops and floral decorated town centre. Hot traffic-clogged streets full of polluting exhaust fumes will quickly turn this source of revenue away. The proposed sale of the land which currently houses the cricket ground should be seen as an opportunity to create a new attractively planned green area; one opening up the space and giving everyone access to the river. We need to think creatively in order to take advantage of what should be seen as an opportunity to improve the character and attractiveness of Wimborne. It will take talent, ingenuity and hard work to achieve this and I believe that the people of Wimborne have these qualities in full measure. Retaining the unique beauty of Wimborne won't be easy - but nothing worth fighting for ever is. Please wake up before it's too late ! 266: The new image on the kwtg website of the proposed supermarket shows a very rosy view of the carpark. On their plan Waitrose showed the upper car park to be at the same level as the shop floor i.e. approx 8ft higher than your image shows. Also the original railings and wall along Rowlands Hill are very unlikely to be left as shown on your image. KWTG is doing a good job of presenting facts intelligently and fairly to oppose the Waitrose building however this new website image presents too favourable a case and possibly helps the Waitrose cause. 265: I find it hard to see how anyone with a genuine interest in Wimborne can justify replacing the Cricket Green with a supermarket. Wimborne is holding on to a community spirit; We have some great independent stores run by locals and valued by locals. The cricket green may not be the "last remaining open space" but why wait? We should be taking hold and preserving all we can, while we can. Protect our local shops and our open space. As for the comment below "give the town a chance to grow in quality & stature within the county of Dorset". I'm sure we could do far better than build a Waitrose on our cricket pitch. Surely you don't consider this proposal a solution to a pressing problem, let alone the best way forward for Wimborne. 264: I like many others am not against supermarkets where they are needed but I feel for a town the size of Wimborne to have two supermarkets as close to each other is crazy and not needed and I am totaly against this sort of misuse of greenfield sites in the centre of any town not just Wimborne and at the end of the day its time that the will of the community was stronger than the will of the planners and large companys etc who only care about profit , I have only been living in Wimborne for a couple of years so still a newcomer to some but on a summers day what better than to walk up the precinct between WH Smiths and Somerfields with my daughter and stand by the river feeding the ducks and swans ,watching the trout swim by and then look across the river to see a green open space and a cricket match in progress ,what could be more idyllic certainly not a concrete monstrosity like a supermarket , let Wimborne be the town that stands their ground against the planners and lets keep all our town centre green field sites for our childrens future if not for our own ,In this day and age with the internet as fast as it is I for one rarely ever visit a supermarket as 90% of my shopping is delivered to my door via online shopping and I always support the greengrocer in town for all my fresh fruit and veg. 263: A big no to the cricket ground being built on for anything. 2000 extra cars a day around the town, it would be madness 262: This whole idea of another supermarket is quite unbelievable. The Chamber of Commerce seem to have such a backward view and you have to wonder whose interests they have at heart, Wimborne and its residents or their own gain. I'm a director of a retail company and their arguments for this supermarket are pretty weak. The idea that a better brand of supermarket would attract more visitors is completely hypothetical and unfounded. I actually believe a quality store like Waitrose would further damage the small shops and stores. As they are connected to John Lewis then they can offer more for less than any local business can. Local butchers, grocers would all be affected. I investigated the cost of shop rates in Wimborne and was frankly shocked. They are close to many rates in parts of London! If the Chamber of Commerce wants more shopping custom in Wimborne then they should reduce the rates, provide better support to new independent stores especially those with local produce and reduce the number of franchise and non-essential stores like opticians - how made opticians does a Wimborne need!! In this day and age, building on any green site is totally unnecessary and should be avoided at all cost. 261: My dog and I use a large area of green open space in the middle of Wimborne everyday, it's available to all 24 hours a day 7 days a week and it's called the Recreation Ground. Don't use untruths (i.e the Cricket pitch is the last open space!) to try & destroy the commercial viability of Wimborne - grow up and use the wonderful open space that is already here, and give the town a chance to grow in quality & stature within the county of Dorset. Please note I have lived in & around Wimborne all my life (40+ years) making me a true voice of the town. 260: My husband and I moved here 16 months ago after living in London our whole lives - its beautiful and the thoght of it turning into a clone of other local towns (and we looked at many before deciding on Wimborne)is a worry. The cricket green is a real feature as you drive into the town - the thought of seeing ANY development on this ground will change the face of the town forever. I will be writing to my councillor at the appropriate time and will be happy to help in any way I can. 259: I most certainly do not want Waitrose to take over the cricket green. I have only lived in Wimborne for 8 months and it is a beautiful town and the last thing it needs is a large supermarket ruining the centre and the Cricket green is used for Wimborne festival . There are plenty of supermarkets close by Tesco and sainsburys in Ferndown . And we have Somerfield In the town . I strongly oppose this move and plead with anyone to stop this from happening. 258: I live directly opposite the Field, and would be greatly disheartend to look out of my window and be presented with a supermarket, and considering parking is already a nightmare for people like my self, bringing a large supermarket would only worsen this situation. Thank You 257: To me, even thinking about destroying a wonderful green area is utterly insane and there is absolutely nothing wrong with Somerfield apart from the products being less expensive and of less quality.And what about less well-off people? surely they wouldn't even be able to afford the products from Waitrose! I think that people who are for this terrible idea are very selfish and aren't thinking of our beautiful countryside enough than they should be. 256: I am concerned like many of you by the proposal to step (or extend steps) to change the retailing in Wimborne from having stop keepers to large national and multi-national business organisations. Waitrose proposes a development on the Hanham's Cricket Ground. With a new arrival on the horizon and the arrival of Julian Graves, a large retailer, are we seeing business premises costing traders their survival in Wimborne. What I write here is to revive the heart, spirit and will of the traders of Wimborne. Wimborne is a market town with a rich architectural tapestry and composition of green landscape that sets it apart from neighbouring towns in the UK, people from far and wide, including from London go to tap into it's rhythm, culture and thriving community and decide to stay for a bit and even find they cannot leave this idyllic place. Wimborne is cosy, it is middle England. Modernist buildings cannot come off unless you have exceptionally gifted architect for it to come off, if and when poor building materials are used, and need to have generous budgets and sufficient time frames to complete them in with time particularly for consultation and for the design. I am concerned that this tapestry is being undermined by what might be described as narcissistic flamboyant (industrial) modernist buildings pursuit of a business ultimate corporate vision and it's inherent corporate clone architecture, that this is not in keeping with the soul of the town which makes for a poor aesthetic marriage between the two. The low standard dated developments to date are seen and will be seen by further generations as disjointed, awkward and see there being clash with the aesthetic beauty that is seen in historic architecture of Wimborne, that so epitomises city centres. We come to see these dated modern developments these like a toy project that once gleamed and was once oh so new and wonderful, was simply mirage, of false hopes, aspirations and dreams, and as we walk on by it is now without the promise it once so had. Just like the development that was built in the 1980's for shops and supermarket, one feels the unfulfilled hopes and dreams with a sense of depleted ness, an inner deadness that on rainy days comes to be dismal and have been made aware that many Wimborne people would be happy to see it demolished and redeveloped. The needs of the community were not given sufficient thoughtful consideration for the project to stand the test of time, at a time when the town was thriving. Many local people are very unhappy with the local supermarket. I interviewed a local person, he said when he moved to Wimborne, Wimborne Minster twenty five or so years ago was a town with a lot of shops, a unique place with all local hussell -bussell of a thriving town. The product and market life cycle of Safeway's has waned resulting in the handover to Somerfield, which has meant and both resulted that the local supermarket is an unhappy marriage with the character and needs of it's community. People perhaps have less reason to relocate, rent, and move home and shop here. The cricket ground in such a context then seems far removed from solving this problem as it stands. The cricket ground of historic value and although an asset that we have the Hanhams to thank for, it has been of insufficient benefit to Wimborne because the people it is intended for have not been allowed to access to it to have a stroll, walk their dog and have some lunch. It is necessary open space beside being an area of green land, and as such it has not reached it's full potential and is undervalued, and as it a result it is sourced as a source of contempt by it's opponents. The cricket facilities are no match to the cricket facilities that you see in Christchurch town centre. The Minister and the Tivoli are a large part of the heart of Wimborne because and due to with the love and altruism of its volunteers but the same love and altruism has sadly not been placed here for it to be more than area of green land, it admittedly has been neglected, this may partly due to low attendance. The sport's grounds in Wimborne are not well publicised well for local people to become involved (either as spectators or as participants), this includes our little heard of football club, this needs to be with not resorting to alcohol sponsored advertising to bring the community 'spirit' together. Wimborne has so much to offer it's community as a civilised community town. Maybe Keep Wimborne Green membership need to getting involved here and it has taken all this to get things to change. And here I have a suggestion, if I haven't already put across a suggestion. Wimborne needs to work on the very qualities I have mentioned, which are so much more again, it needs more individual shops or shops to pride themselves more on their individuality, providing a bakery with the fresh smell of bread in the morning, a specialist coffe. 255: Copy of a letter
sent to 254: Am wishing to support you, rather belatedly I'm afraid. I'm really upset I didn't get to the exhibition at the Allendale Centre. I think it would be very bad for Wimborne and am prepared to put in time. Has a petition been done? Is there enough volunteers to have the whole of Wimborne covered door-to-door to get several thousand signatures to hand in to the planners or possibly Waitrose? I've led 2 successful campaigns doing this and would be prepared to assist. 253: I'd like to express my support for the campaign against the proposed Waitrose developement. If there is anything I can do to support the opposition of the developement, publicly or otherwise, please let me know. 252: In the 24/7 rat-race world i'm forced to live in (at the behest of others), the tranquility of a Sunday morning in Wimborne town centre is one of life's more cathartic experiences. If Waitrose opens (can't see them staying closed on Sunday) then the ambience is gone forever... If Waitrose comes they should build / take over Crown Mead. And stay shut on Sundays ! 251: We really cannot understand how anyone can even consider turning Wimborne into just another faceless town.The town is not large enough for two supermarkets...so, would Somerfield become an extra large charity shop?We love Wimborne...but would certainly be moving away when we retire in ten years time if the town is spoilt in this way...and so would many others whom we have spoken to. I have nothing against Waitrose - I used to work for them - but this is plainly wrong. Just avarice dictating policy. 250:Sad, very sad, please don't do it 249: It would be a shame to loose the green town centre, the traffic would also be a nightmare. I know that the land will be sold, but with some luck an agreement can be found. 248: Keep the green! 247: I used to work for Waitrose and think very highly of John Lewis Partnership, but I can't justify them or anyone building on the cricket ground. 246: I like Waitrose and hate cricket but I still think this isn't a good plan. 245: The cricket pitch should not be built on.
Open spaces in the centre of towns villages should be protected. 244: I find it extraordinary that a proposal
to site a supermarket on a beautiful cricket green in an historic town
such as Wimborne is even being considered.The green is bordered by attractive
residential houses some of them dating back to the Georgian and early
Victorian periods.Even the new social services offices adjoining the green
have been sympathetically rebuilt to fit in with the surrounding architecture.The
area should be retained as it is for public enjoyment and future posterity.The
erection of a ghastly glass and concrete edifice on such a site is inconceivable.Commercially
of course it will kill more shops in the town if built.I would question
the vague supposition that it will bring more business to the town-it
will only bring unwanted traffic congestion and blight the appearance
of that area of Wimborne. 243: How can this developement
be beneficial to Wimborne? Look at Blandford and other similar towns.
Dying because of one large store! What about the Folk Festival? All the
car parking for that is on the cricket ground. So what happens when their
is no parking? Suddenly the Folk Festival is moved to some where out of
town (Canford Arena?) and what is the benefit of that to Wimborne? Keep
Wimborne green. Think about the issues not just in the centre of town!
All that extra traffic and no improvement to the roads!. The Wimborne
by pass has failed to kep the traffic out of Wimborne. Midlehill Rd and
Allenview Rd are now the bypasses for the Wimborne By Pass! Leigh Road
cannot cope with existing levels of traffice yet Waitrose admit that Leigh
Rd is the only route available for their delivery lorries. Remember that
the proposed Churchill flats developement next to Catholic Church will
increase traffic again on Leigh Rd. The plans show three roundabouts and
two crossings between Rowlands Hill and Leigh Rd / Poole Rd junction.
Has anybody though how the police, ambulance and fire brigades are going
to get through bearing in mind that all their current bases will necessitate
them using the Rowlands Hill to Leigh Rd / Poole Rd route? In Romsey,
Waitrose wanted to build a store in the middle of town and 'people power'
forced them to rethink and, eventually, build an out of town site. Come
on Wimborne wake up and stop this over development. Come on Wimborne councillors
stand up for our town or face the wrath at the ballot box. 243: Having visited the Waitrose exhibition
this week I was pleased to see that they have listend to feedback from
the consultation earlier and have produced a revised plan that is very
acceptable. The town will now actually benefit from more green space that
is accessable to the general public than it has now. We need to face facts
here - the cricket pitch is a green space used by a minority of people.
The Waitrose plan will create a parkland space with a very attractive
river frontage that will be open to anybody. Finally, as I have been invited
to vent my feelings, I will - I felt the staff from Waitrose at the exhibition
were very professional and well informed. Unlike a representative of KWTG
who was quite frankly very rude to my wife when she declined to take one
of their leaflets - not a good strategy for gaining support! 242: We do not want a cricket field behind our
house we want it to remain on the site it is now as one of the central
points of the town. Wimborne Minster is famous for its appearance and
another supermarket can only adversely effect this. 241: Why have another supermarket when the one
we have now is already undersubscribed? 240: I have lived in Wimborne since I was at
Allenbourne middle school and remember the fields over by Walford Mill
before the houses and surgery were built, also the houses behind the fire
station. I dont want my daughter growing up not able to enjoy the green
spaces left in wimborne a mere memory! Once it has gone it has GONE! Why
if Waitrose were interested in Wimborne did they not buy the Safeways
building instead of Somerfield? Lunacy.... 239: I'd like to express my support for the
campaign against the proposed Waitrose developement. If there is anything
I can do to support the opposition of the developement, publicly or otherwise,
please let me know. 238: Now that the new old folks home has been
built, i can't see that having a Waitrose would be a problem as it could
hide what i must say is the most disgusting building in the town! And
it is not the only bit of green in the town, have people forgotten about
Redcotts? Yes it is not right in the centre but it is only a five minute
walk away. 237: STOP Wrecking our towns and countrysides!
236: Wimborne doesn't need another supermarket!
Keep the cricket ground! 235: I am completely against the wimborne cricket
pitch being turned into a supermarket. The cricket pitch is an old, central,
recognisable, pleasant and green feature of wimborne - something we should
be proud of. Something that not many old market towns still have, but
we do and we should protect it. It is well loved in the town and it attracts
an enormous ammount of tourism at the folk festival and people come from
far and wide to watch the cricket and visit the cricketers arms pub. The
thought that the cricket pitch could be turned into a supermarket of all
hideous things, is simply disgusting. We all ready have a supermarket
and we have room for it to be moved and expanded elsewhere - it doesn't
need to destroy the cricket pitch - a well loved feature of wimborne.
234: We should keep wimborne green. Why build
more Super markets when we already have one about 10 metres away 233: I am appalled that the council would even
consider allowing Waitrose to build on our last area of central greenery.
They may as well say they want to build on the Minster Green! So many
people oppose this! We have one supermarket, so why use valuable green
land on another one? It's pointless, when there are other areas in the
vicinity of Wimborne that could be used. Don't let it go ahead. 232: What I - and I'm sure others must be wondering
- is why can't an improved supermarket be build around the existing Somerfield
site - possibly somehow incorporating the empty shops between Boots and
Smiths? Why are these shops empty? I know people who are for the Waitrose
development just because they prefer Waitrose as a supermarket to Somerfield.
What we all want is a good quality supermarket which compliments the town's
other retailers. 231: My family have recently moved to Wimborne,
and one of the nicest features of the town in my opinion is the Cricket
ground. I am very concerned that building on this site will alter the
whole feel of the town. 230: What I - and I'm sure others must be wondering
- is why can't an improved supermarket be built around the existing Somerfield
site - possibly somehow incorporating the empty shops between Boots and
Smiths? Why are these shops empty? I know people who are for the Waitrose
development just because they prefer Waitrose as a supermarket to Somerfield.
What we all want is a good quality supermarket in the area designated
for supermarket and shops, one which compliments the town's other retailers. 229: If I were to walk to Somerfield and pick
up some food it seems obvious that my next course of action would be to
walk home. Wouldnt it be brilliant if our town, our home, was transformed
from a beautiful place to live to a supermarket ghetto? Also, what if
you or I get hungry in the 100 yards or so between the supermarkets? We
will obviously need another one to quench the hunger. It is more than
just bizzare to build two supermarkets so close to each other in a town
so small, it is the victory of big money over the small town. 228: Wimborne is a lovely market town with a
unusually individual character which is fast being eroded by 'development'
such as this. 227: I have no objection either to Waitrose
coming to Wimborne. I think it would be an asset, but not on the cricket
field. Why cannot they use the Somerfield supermarket, and also buy out
the surrounding shops, as most are charity ones, to make a bigger and
better site for them. With the money Waitrose obviously have I am sure
they can come to some agreement with the surrounding shops to buy them
out! I think the passageway along the river, and those shops are an eyesore
anyway! Oh, and the cricket field should be made in to an area where people
can sit and enjoy the only bit of green we still have in Wimborne. Tables,
seats and trees can be placed for all to enjoy. 226: Wimborne does need a large high quality
supermaket but not in the centre of one of the most attractive towns in
southern England. It should be located outside the town so that people
have easy access with parking and a regular bus service from the town
centre. The development of the green space will be detrimental to the
town and it's future. 225: People who would like to see a Waitrose
on the cricket field should take into account the fact that it may not
remain as such. After all, the original Safeway store in Crown Mead became
a Morrison which later became a Somerfield. More importantly, once planning
permission has been granted for a large retail supermarket the field could
easily become the future site of, say, an even larger B & Q type do-it-yourself
store. It should be remembered that in planning terms there is little
difference. 224: Waitrose WILL destroy our town if it is
allowed to build a superstore. We DO NOT NEED on a part of our town that
means so much to so many people. 223:So much for the "green" being designated
as an open space for recreation! Only if you are a member of the cricket
club it seems. Today is a bank holiday. No-one is playing a match. No-one
was misbehaving. But my son and husband were "thrown out" for using the
cricket nets. At least Waitrose would allow the public access to use the
land. Currently most of us are only allowed to look from the outside!
222: Wimborne is not big enough to take the
traffic, if this happens it will be the end of small traders. Anyone who
believes the spin Waitrose and others are saying must be living on another
planet 221: Keep Wimborne a rural town, stop building
on every space possible. 220: Interested to see that the cricket pitch
is a designated "recreational space" - as its always locked and the general
public have no access. Your impression of what the supermarket might look
like wholly mis-respresents the real view that Waitrose put forward at
the planning meeting, as does the impression that local stores object.
Actually in the majority they all welcome a Waitrose store - as it will
bring welcome trade to an area that is slowly being over taken by Opticians
and Estate Agents. As a resident I also welcome the prospect of being
able to shop in my own town - rather than having to use my car to drive
to Ferndown. 219: Wait up on the Waitrose development 218: If you want to see what Supermarket competition
can do when in near proximity, you only have to look towards Ringwood
or Blandford Forum. Fortunately for Ringwood, Sainsbury's decided to take
over the shell left by Somerfields, when they lost business to Waitrose.
However, for Blandford Forum, Somerfields is just a brick eyesore with
wooden boarding where the windows once were. In both towns, you also need
to look at the effect the excessive supermarket provision has had on the
local traders. Disasterous! The road network which would serve the Waitrose
proposal is woefully inadequate. Adding the burden of traffic to Waitrose
cause the road network jam at certain times of the day. Waitrose's proposal
will not just affect the Cricket Pitch, it WILL have a negative affect
everyone. Keep Waitrose out of Wimborne. Why not put them slightly out
of town with a more suitable road network (A31) and more centrally to
serve Broadstone, North Poole, Wimborne and Corfe Mullen. 217: My mother was a vice president of the club
and spent her last years supporting them. Her memorial is Lorna's Gate
and her ashes were scattered there. To her family this is an important
location. I hope it will remain unspoilt by commerce. 216: I do not want to see the green changed
to erm! what looks rather like a ghastly motorway service station. It
would only mean, more cars, more traffic lights, blah blah! Not to mention
more profit to buy yet more Sites. Same goes for Tesco.con. Good on you
folks, 215: Why take away the greenery when crown mead
is gradually becoming an unused shell, it dosen't take much to work out
where Waitrose would be best placed. Most would welcome a Waitrose as
suppose to Somerfield but not when it means sacrificing an area that makes
Wimborne quite unique. 214: What a horrible site that will be as you
drive into Wimborne 213: No Waitrose or any other kind of Grocert
store needed. We have it covered already!!!! 212: It would be a crying shame to lose the
cricket pitch to the monstruous grip of the middle class, over priced
Waitrose. What ever happened to supporting the locals! Love thy neighbour
or feed and proliferate the power of corporate greed? Hmmmmmmmmmmm.. hard
choice. And as for all that crap about their fine wine selection, stop
being so sodding selfish!!! I can think of numerous "super"markets near
by to satisfy your desire for fine wine. 211: Keep it don't kill it 210: Not on the cricket pitch... so many good
memories, put it further from the main town please 209: Using a cricket pitch for a supermarket
is bad enough, but putting that eyesore in the middle of the village is
just plain silly 208: Why does our local authority think it is
acceptable to destroy the livelihoods of small businesses? 207: Losing the last decent expanse of green
space within the town will forever change the idyllic appeal of Wimborne
to both the local residents and the large amount of people who visit each
year. This will surely have an adverse effect on all town businesses,
as well as effect the bouyant property market within the area. I do not
see any real evidence that it will benefit anyone other than the developers
and the supermarket chain. 206: Just an idea, walking through the arcade
next to Safeways/Morrison, and see that over half of the shops have either
closed or have been turned into Charity Shops. A little bird has told
me that W.H.Smiths would also like to sell up. Wonder if S/M would want
to expand into those shops, and maybe allow Boots to run their own business
from within? Has anyone thought to ask? 205: Supermarkets have destroyed the heart and
soul of countless towns across GB. Why isn't more done to protect the
character of our towns and cities? I sincerely hope that the KWTG action
group are sucessful in persuading Waitrose to find another town - out
of town! 204: It would be a great shame if this green
was lost. It is one of a diminishing number of town greens that plays
a vital part in the community. 203: We do not need two supermarkets in Wimborne,
especially on our one remaining piece of green space. It would certainly
be no great loss if Waitrose took over the Somerfield! 202 :Paved over Paradise and put up a parking
lot! Do the Council of Wimborne really think that this is what the people
want or is money that important to them? 201: I am behind you all the way. I am sick
of multi-national corporations destroying the souls and quality of people's
and local businesses with these sick commercial developments. No more!
We have a choice and the right to stop these greedy global fatcats. 200: Who in their right mind would allow this
to happen, apart from someone taking a back hander and the sniff of an
easy buck...... why not build flats in the Minster while they're at it
!!! better not give 'em idea's..... James 199: A big supermarket is totally unnecessary
in Wimborne. Keep Wimborne green! 198:For God's sake, is nothing sacred? How much
more is rampant consumerism going to continue to destroy the very fabric
of our towns and villages? Support your local shops before its too late..
Don't let a horrible hedge fund take over our gorgeous ground! 197: Why is Wimborne and its folks full of character?
does the environment and landscape in which people choose to be, affect
how the people and the place feel? -absolutely Wimborne is a growing and
thriving town with conflicting land uses, much like any other growing
urban settlement. Will the loss of its character and landscape detract
from wimbornes appeal. -of course what then is the point of this loss
of traditional landscape in terms of Wimbornes credentials? consumer needs
and service providers are ever on the up but at what cost. Waitrose may
do more than other supermarkets to source local food and provide responsibly
but where is its responsibility and respect for its potential new home?
this must surely be a consideration for the planners of this new store.
keep Wimborne green. We all love it. 196:Geez! There is another supermarket within
a few yards of this site plus at least 2 more in the surrounding area.
Does Wimborne really need this supermarket. Is it for the good of the
residents? Deeply upset. 195: More green less grey 194: Surely a brown field site is a more appropriate
location for this supermarket. 193: Open spaces are valuable,
and should be retained. 192: This is simply outrageous. 191: I must admit I am in two minds about this.
Although it would be a shame to see the old ground go, Waitrose is a good
supermarket. Exceptional wine collections. If it was an Asda or Tesco
I would definately be against it. Which ever way this goes, I'm a winner
really!!! 190: NO WAITROSE 189:Keep Wimbourne Green 188: Please accept my
sincere apologies if I sound so rude, but the people responsible for such
a shite idea, like building another horrible supermarket in the middle
of a green patch, whichever location that green patch is!! should be put
somewhere in a corner of this planet where all the terrible waste that
they produce goes, and with all the other wrong 'uns that keep doing the
same thing. They all should have a veggie patch and try to be green for
once!! We only have ONE PLANET, I wonder what they all will do when it
has been concreted... where will they go? to a place called Wrong'un Land?
Can you imagine what that place would be like? 187: I grew up in Wimborne and still come back
regularly. As much as I think that Wimbrone would benefit from Waitrose
I do think that they should choose a more appropriate site as it would
be disaster if Wimborne lost its iconic beauty spot to concrete. Lessons
are to be learnt from the Imax building in Bourmenouth ruining the sea
view. I strongly oppose the building of Waitrose on the cricket ground
but encourage them to look for an alternative site in Wimborne. 186:
NOooooooo!!! 185: I feel that the proposal
to build a supemarket on our cricket pitch is an absolute disgrace. The
cricket pitch is a defining feature of Wimborne - how anyone can justify
the first thing people see when driving into Wimborne being a supermarket
I cannot understand. 184: How can it even be considered? What exactly
will another supermarket achieve? More traffic? More congestion? Oh, and
sorry, but what about the history behind the pitch? Wimborne is beautiful,
and once something like this happens it will create a knock on effect,
and then, in time it will just become another scabby town. Leaving it
how it is will ensure there will be revenue from visitors for a long time
to come. Don't lose it forever, because there wont be any room for turning
back. Think about it, and sort yourselves out!!! 183: Keep Wimborne Green!
Do we really need another supermarket? Does it need to be on the lovely
cricket pitch? No and no. Such a proposal would destroy a beautiful and
picturesque space, the main green space left in Wimborne. Wimborne attracts
visitors because it is pretty, so we would also be doing no favours to
the tourist trade by allowing this to happen. Putting money into the pockets
of the conglomerates and taking it away from the community. Should we
not instead be regenerating local independent businesses so that there
is no longer enough demand for another supermarket because people are
spending money on local produce in local shops. Say yes to saying no!
182. I object to the future planning on green
belt in Corfe Mullen, the area in which I live but I am only a stones
throw from Wimborne which, although busy with cars taking the kids to
school in the morning, I cannot stand the thought of the delivery lorries
to Waitrose belching out their fumes and rumbling past the lovely houses
overlooking the pitch. Keep it a green and allow all to enjoy it! 181: No way! Its completely ridiculous.....surely
all parties can see this?? 180:Our town is full of character & tradition
which makes it a great place to live. I fear having another retail giant
built in Wimborne will remove another chunk of individuality, steering
our town closer to the generic, souless ghost towns that dominate this
country. 179: This were our lovely town gets converted
into just any other grey town that might as well be a suburb of London.
if we are not careful! I understand, that the town needs to grow financially,
but a line has to be drawn somewhere...where next..the Minster green!?
Waitrose should go build it somewhere else, somewhere that is not so important
to the local people. The cricket pitch is like Wimborne's mascot. The
Warm welcoming post card picture as you enter the town.... 178: May I advise talking to those running Streets Meadow, and pointing out how bad the view will be for old folks looking out their window onto concrete and more out of town shoppers. I like waitrose, | |